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A Short History of Dominick Street, Dublin

This text is now available in print as part of my Hesterglock Press book The City Itself.

One

“This quarter was the first settlement of fashionable Dublin after it began to leave the city proper. Dominick Street, a wide thoroughfare crossing Bolton Street, was the residence of many of the aristocracy. The arms of the former residents are still emblazoned over some of the doorways. The cornices around the tops of the houses are sometimes adorned with mouldering statues. The iron brackets, from which the great lamps hung to illuminate the steps of the entrance, may even yet be seen. But the present population is so poor that the street is becoming daily more and more dilapidated. At No.36 was born Sir William Hamilton, a great Irish mathematical genius, who discovered the system of quaternions. This house, too, is marked by a tablet.”

Two

Joseph Sheridan Le Fanu, author of Uncle Silas, etc., and editor of the Dublin University Magazine, was born in 1814 at 45 Lower Dominick Street, and afterwards resided at 70 Merrion Square South.”

Three

“The crowds of children who perforce throng the streets in our overcrowded central areas make it so slow and dangerous for the motorist that many wide streets, such as Gloucester Street and Dominick Street, have virtually been lost as traffic arteries. No proper planning can solve the traffic problem if this is not remedied…

“There is the natural desire to retain, if possible, some of the most characteristic streets of the city. A careful survey has revealed that the structure of some of these houses is unsound and that, whatever the site is used for, these unsound buildings must be replaced. But a great number of them, so far as their major structural features are concerned, are sound, in addition to being of high civic dignity of appearance. Indeed a rapid and somewhat casual glance out of a car passing through Mountjoy Square, Gardiner Street and Dominick Street might lead a stranger to imagine that these North Dublin streets were as well occupied as Fitzwilliam Street on the South. A very little closer scrutiny reveals the difference.”

Four

 “Mr. Dillon: This, as I have already said, on the Committee Stage, is a perfect “Marie Antoinette” approach to housing. First of all, it is laid down specifically that people must not set their houses in tenements and that the local authorities, in certain circumstances, may tell them that they are not to do so, quite oblivious of the fact that the only reason the house is a tenement house is because the unfortunate people who are living in the sordid rooms available have nowhere else to live. This point having been taken by our modern “Marie Antoinette”, his contribution is: “Very well”—if they have to live in a loathsome tenement at the foot of Dominick Street let us mitigate their suffering by calling it not a tenement but a “multiple dwelling”. That will greatly relieve the stress of their circumstances. So long as we do not mention tenements, we do not have to worry about them. Are we not travelling in this House along a most extraordinary road? These two sections are designed to prevent the spread of tenement conditions into new parts of the city…

“The word “tenement” to us and to anyone who understands the city has always connoted something. The words “multiple dwelling” connote nothing. You do not change bread into cake by calling bread “cake”; you do not change tenement houses into flats by calling them “multiple dwellings”. I exhort the Minister to eschew the role of Marie Antoinette, to be a realist for a little while and to withdraw this amendment and restore to its rightful place those words of evil omen, “tenement house”, until such time as they cease to exist, not as a result of an obliterating statute but as a result of the provision of adequate houses for those who are festering in the tenement houses. When that is done, there will be no need for euphemisms like multiple dwellings; tenements will be no more than a memory and the flats will be something to which no one can take exception, for which no one ought to be compelled to register at the City Hall, and which the local authority ought not to have power to prohibit. Then the necessity for these sections will disappear and any diminution of the powers of the bureaucrat to regulate them is welcome. I want to see the day speeded when that diminution will take place. I do not want to see the day dawn when we can still our conscience in this House by changing the name to something the existence of which we are ashamed to admit.”

Five

When I was born in 1954, my parents were living in a tenement flat in Dominick Street, in a building that was later demolished as part of a slum clearance programme. That’s where I spent the first few months of my life, sleeping in a drawer in the bedroom. One toilet to the floor, good neighbours and bad; it was a place to live in, a place to leave.

Six

“Mr. Sherwin: I want to refer to the hold-up of the sanctioning of schemes. Other Deputies have referred to it also. We in the Dublin Corporation are very annoyed at the length of time it takes the Minister either to approve a plan or to sanction a tender. Recently, Vicar Street was sanctioned by the Minister. I was told that the sketch plan for it was actually put before the Minister three and a half years ago and was not approved. Then there was a further delay in sanction. I understand it took several years also for two flat schemes at Love Lane in Rathmines. This is what we are worrying about, in view of the amount of unemployment in the building trade at the moment.

I would remind the Minister of Dominick Street. The traders there are all practically bankrupt. Four years ago, Dominick Street was emptied. Almost 5,000 men, women and children were removed from Dominick Street. I am not blaming the Minister for the delay up to now because it took almost two and a half years to house the people of Dominick Street. I am asking the Minister, when the tender comes before him, to remember the small traders of Dominick Street and not to hold up the sanction. We estimate that, even if there is sanction and there is no hold-up, the flats will not be ready for occupation until January, 1961. The House will appreciate now how the small traders in the area are affected. They must wait from 1954 until 1961. Therefore, the holding-up of approval of plans is a very vital matter to which I hope the Minister will give consideration.”

Seven

“Mr. S. Dunne:  I want to charge the ESB with conspiring to create a public impression that these houses [in Fitzwilliam Street] are falling down from dry rot and decay. This is a gross distortion of the facts and is completely untrue. These houses have never been in the category of the houses in Dominick Street, Fenian Street, Summerhill, Gardiner Street or anywhere else in this city. The speakers who have referred to Dominick Street, notably Deputy Timmons and my colleague from County Dublin, do not advert to the fact that Dominick Street, Summerhill, and all these places I have mentioned, and many others as well, became slum tenements 100 years ago. They were neglected to the last possible degree.

There was absolutely nothing done with them in the nature of repairs by the slum landlords who owned them. They were occupied by, as I have said before, not scores or even hundreds of families but literally thousands of families, living one family to a room, many of them being average Irish families with a large number of children. Goodness knows, the children who had to live in such conditions did not get much of a chance in life because the housing conditions in the slum areas of Dublin, areas such as Dominick Street, Gardiner Street and Fenian Street, were comparable with the worst in the world, and the infant mortality in such conditions was one of the highest in the Europe of its day.”

Sources

  • The Story of Dublin  By D. A. Chart, M.A. Illustrated by Henry J. Howard. (J. M. Dent & Co., London. 1907).
  • Dublin: A Historical and Topographical Account of the City. By Samuel A. Ossory Fitzpatrick. Illustrated by W. Curtis Greene. First published 1907.
  • The 1941 Sketch Development Plan for County Borough of Dublin and Neighbourhood by Professor Abercrombie.
  • Dáil Éireann Debates for 1947, 1958 and 1963


47 responses to “A Short History of Dominick Street, Dublin”

  1. i went 2 the holy faith there;wats it used 4 now

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  2. To be honest, I don’t know. It isn’t a school any more.

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  3. My great great Grandfather Samuel Robinson DOB about 1840 lived at 4 Dominick Street Lower, he was a hotel proprietor. I am wondering if you know if there was a Hotel in Dominick street in around 1882?
    Clare

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  4. Hi Clare

    What I can tell you is that Broadstone railway station opened in 1847 and a number of hotels and guest houses opened in nearby Dominic Street to cater for the travellers. The best-known was probably the Midlands Hotel, which operated well into the last century. A careful trawl through the digitalised 1862 Thom’s Street Directory might turn up something:

    http://www.libraryireland.com/Dublin-Street-Directory-1862/Home.php

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    1. Thank you for that useful link, there was indeed a hotel next door to number 4 which perhaps my gggrandfather might have been proprietor of at some point!

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      1. Hi Clare, I am researching my family history at the moment and I believe my great-great grandparents Anne and Peter Glynn may have own The Midlands Hotel on Dominick Street. I’m looking for the hotel that was at No.11. If anyone has any information, please let me know.

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        1. It was 11 Lower Dominick Street.

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    2. I am looking for any information about the Midlands Hotel, Ibelieve it was managed by an Elizabeth Doyle at one point .Any information about the the Hotel or owners etc greatly appreciated.
      I had a granaunt who worked there in the early 1900,s and am trying to figure out what became of her.
      Thanking You,
      Mary Hickey

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      1. Have you tried looking at the 1901 and 1911 census returns?

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      2. Anthony Prunty Avatar
        Anthony Prunty

        I remember the Midlands Hotel in upper Dominick Street.It was opposite the Temple Buildings. I passed it every day on my way to work as an office clerk in CIE Broadstone. I myself was born in 27 Lower Dominick Street. I went to my first school in the Holy Faith Convent,and later in Colaiste Muire Parnell Square. I was also an alter boy in the Dominican Church,where the late Brother Pius was in charge.
        Great memories….hence my interest in this Blog site…Elliptical Movements.

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        1. Hi, Do you have any old photographs of Dominick Street Lower?

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  5. i lived in the flats in lower Dominick street and I am very proud to say I grew up there.i spent 27 years in the flats these were our home..when everyone went home from town to there houses outside the city we called town our home

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    1. I was born in one myself. Hence the interest.

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  6. Lived in 23lower Dominick street top of the house it was used by emi when I lived there prior to that it was weafers pawn office the 3balls were still on the back of the house when I left great memories of living there great memories and great neighbours too went to kings inn school and St Marys place

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    1. I remember the pawn office.

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    2. just seen this site now i remember you joseph we played football in granby lane with kevin spratt kevin hanlon and the reeds. and the flynns

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    3. Hi, Do you have any old photographs of Dominick Street Lower?

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  7. Denny cummins Avatar
    Denny cummins

    I was born in no 42lr dominick st and moved to no 48 when they dolished most of the houses great place to grow up best of neighbours , went to school denmark st along with the orphans st saviours

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    1. It was a great place, a proper community.

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    2. hi denny what year did you go to Denmark st the teachers I remember were mr mullen mr caffery mr Hogan

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    3. hi thre denny I was in st saviours orphanage fronfrom 1949 to 1955 we went to Denmark st school do you remember mr mullen ira stories ?

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      1. Hi from Canada. I was wondering if you have any recollection of the name Hermann Wonta. He was there starting from 1951 and not sure how long and was 8 years old.

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        1. I’m sorry but I don’t.

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      2. Geraldine Hannigan Avatar
        Geraldine Hannigan

        Hi Patrick
        You were in St Saviours no 20 the same time as my dad Michael Hannigan. Do you remember him? He was there from about 1945 onwards…

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    4. Hello Denny, when did you live at number 42?, thanks

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  8. There used to be Prunty’s shop at 27 Lr.Dominick Street.near the Dominican Church.

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  9. Does anyone know the name of the shop that was a small type of newsagent/sweetshop that was at start of dominick street lower in the 1970s, think the address is 185-187 dominick street lower, a lovely old man used to own and run it, just trying to find out name of the little old shop and man.

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    1. I’m afraid I don’t.

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    2. Do you remember Prunty’s shop at 27 Lr.Dominick Street?…up near the Dominican Church,about 50 yards from Dorset St. corner.

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  10. Hi, my grandfather Joseph Ball married Bridget Glynn in 1931, The marriage certificate states that Josephs address was 15 Dominick Street Lower, his fathers name was James Ball and they were both Soldiers. It is there that my research has stalled – I am trying to figure out if he was actually Irish or English and was wondering if you can help at all?

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    1. In 1931, a serving soldier living in Dublin would have been in the Irish army, and so probably was Irish. His father would have almost certainly have served in the British army and could have been English. I think you need to try to find a birth record for your grandfather, have you looked on ancestory.com?
      Was the marriage held in a Catholic church?

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  11. My father grew up in an orphanage on Lower Dominic St. in the 1930s. The building is now used by Youth Work Ireland. The boys from the orphanage wre alter boys at the church in the same block.

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    1. Hi, Do you have any old photographs of Dominick Street Lower?

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  12. Eileen Mahoney Avatar
    Eileen Mahoney

    Hello,
    I am researching my Irish ancestors and I would like to know if anyone remembers a couple who lived in Upper Dominick Street between 1917-45, their names were Mary & Patrick Dowd. They were both from Boyle, Roscommon and owned a grocery shop in that street.
    Any information would be welcome.
    Thank you.

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  13. Hello,

    Does anyone know anything about 44 Dominick Street lower in the 1930’s? If anyone knew any Murphy’s or anyone that lived there? Also number 46 Bridget Wynn any information at all? Thanks Mark

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  14. Hello,

    Does anyone know anything about 44 Dominick Street lower in the 1930’s? If anyone knew any Murphy’s or anyone that lived there? Also number 46 Bridget Wynn any information at all? Thanks Mark

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    1. Hi, Do you have any old photographs of Dominick Street Lower?

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  15. does anyone know if there is a roster of boys from the orphanage? i am trying to find someone who was there in the late 1940s to mid 1950s.

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    1. You might try the National Archive in Dublin.

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  16. I was in there around 1965till I think 1972

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    1. Hi was this the Dominick Street Orphanage at number 20?

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      1. St Saviours orphanage was at no 20.

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  17. Ray O’Gorman. Avatar
    Ray O’Gorman.

    Hi Sean Preston I was there with you at that time, we went to Brother Paul for music lessons you played the saxophone I tried to play the guitar lol. Name is Ray O’Gorman. Kevin Warren played the trumpet.

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  18. Hi did anyone know the graces they lived in 33 lower Dominic street

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